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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin is joined by Alexander Beiner for a deep dive into nuanced engagement in the culture wars.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-244-alexander-beiner/

Paul and Alexander examine the importance of sense-making and the role of psychedelics in navigating complex environments. Alexander draws from his interviews with thought leaders like John Vervaeke, Ian McGilchrist, and Nora Bateson, shedding light on the Four E's of cognitive science. He explores how psychedelics can enhance discernment and adaptability in the face of a rapidly changing world. Alexander also shares his experiences with extended state DMT and its impact on his understanding of reality.

This conversation delves deeply into the realms of consciousness and reality, offering visionary insights into how psychedelic perspectives can inform and address the intricate challenges facing the world.

Alexander Beiner is an author and journalist. He's the author of 'The Bigger Picture: How psychedelics can help us make sense of the world' and an Executive Director of Breaking Convention, Europe's longest-running conference on psychedelic science and culture.

Highlights:

The story of Rebel Wisdom and unpacking culture wars

John Vervaeke and Iain McGilchrist

Adding ‘emotion’ and ‘exaptation’ to 4E Cognition

DMT entities and the overview effect

Examining the different medicines can occasion unique mystical experiences

Idealism and panpsychism

The importance of cultivating relational ways of being

Envisioning new systems to facilitate responsible psychedelic use

Reestablishing a relationship with the land

Resources and conclusion

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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin welcomes physician Dr. Russell Kennedy, “The Anxiety MD,” to discuss healing the root cause of anxiety, and the role that psychedelics can play.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-243-russell-kennedy-md/

Dr. Kennedy shares his personal journey of healing anxiety stemming from his own childhood adversity. He discusses the connection between the mind and body, the impact of psychedelics on anxiety, and transcending the limiting self-beliefs that physiological states of anxiety can produce.

Dr. Kennedy also provides practical practices to connect with the self and overcome anxiety. Offering a neuroscientific overview of anxiety, he emphasizes the importance of changing the alarm sensation in the body to break protective behavioral patterns that may stem from childhood. Additionally, Dr. Kennedy shares his experience with stand-up comedy and its impact on his life. He concludes by discussing his current projects and focus on helping people find relief from anxiety.

Dr. Russell Kennedy, also known as "The Anxiety MD," is a visionary physician in the field of anxiety disorders. With a diverse background in medicine, neuroscience, developmental psychology, yoga, meditation, and stand-up comedy, he has redefined the understanding and treatment of anxiety from both scientific and humanistic perspectives. Much of his work is based on overcoming his own lifelong battle with chronic, crippling worry, creating the award winning and best-selling book Anxiety Rx, The Anxiety Rx Podcast, and more recently, MBRX, a step by step mind-body program designed to permanently heal anxiety. Dr. Kennedy is empowering individuals from all over the world to overcome anxiety and embrace a life of calm and fulfilment.

Highlights:

How psychedelics and studying childhood trauma informed Dr. Kennedy’s perspective on anxiety

A new theory on anxiety

The impact of psychedelics on anxiety

Why so many people struggle with anxiety

Practices to feel more connected and less anxious

How to safely bring more awareness to the root causes of anxiety

Addressing anxiety stemming from preverbal trauma

Developing the courage to feel

A physician’s experience as a stand-up comedian

Dr. Kennedy's current projects and focuses

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In this episode, Jennifer Tessler, Jennifer Tessler, Psychotherapist & Founder of Alalaho, joins Paul F. Austin to discuss contemplative approaches to psychedelic healing.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-242-jennifer-tessler/

Jennifer shares her journey of self-discovery through travel, meditation, and psychedelics. She discusses the integration of Dzogchen and psychedelics, and the benefits of psychedelics in supporting spiritual practices. Jennifer also talks about the founding of Alalaho Retreats and their focus on providing comprehensive retreat experiences for individuals interested in exploring psychedelics and deepening their spiritual practice. Jennifer explains the core practices in the experience retreat, which include meditation, somatic practices, journaling exercises, nature connection exercises, authentic relating, and ecstatic dance. She also emphasizes the importance of long-term integration and incorporating contemplative elements in the retreats.

Additionally, Jennifer shares her vision for offering retreats specifically for clinicians and healthcare practitioners to learn how to deliver psychedelic-assisted therapies. She highlights the need for psychedelic facilitators to have personal experience and expertise in navigating the inner realms. Finally, Jennifer emphasizes the integrity and safety of Alalaho as a container for transformative experiences.

Jennifer Tessler embarked on an in-depth exploration of reality and the inner workings of the human mind(heart) following a transformative backpacking journey to Asia in her late teens. There, she was introduced to the profound teachings of Tibetan Buddhism and discovered the sacred use of psychedelic medicines for the first time. Over the next 15 years, she devoted herself to the practice of meditation and the study of psychological healing and spiritual growth, spending close to a thousand days in meditation retreat under the close guidance of her Tibetan Buddhist teacher (a renowned Dzogchen master in the Vajrayana school). Her journey also led her to become an integrative transpersonal psychotherapist, blending Eastern wisdom with Western therapeutic approaches.

In 2017, Jennifer began facilitating psilocybin-assisted retreats and co-directing the UK Psychedelic Society's Experience Retreats program, Europe's first legal psilocybin-assisted retreat program. This initiative eventually culminated in the founding of Alalaho, a pioneering organization celebrated for its integrity and heart-centered approach. Jennifer's efforts are dedicated to nurturing the unfolding of the infinite vitality, wisdom, and potential that lies at the core of our being — just like the blossoming of a lotus.

Highlights:

LSD in the Himalayas and pivotal journeys to Asia

Growing up between Paris and London

Training as a transpersonal psychotherapist

Understanding Dzogchen

Tibetan Buddhism lineages and practices

Dzogchen and psychedelics

Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche and Crazy Wisdom

Alalaho Retreats

Current Focus of Alalaho

Jennifer's greater vision for Alalaho

Training for clinicians and healthcare practitioners

Connect with Alalaho Retreats

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Adrian Lozano joins host Joseph Anew on The Psychedelic Podcast to discuss psychedelic coaching, integration, and group microdosing.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-241-adrian-lozano/

In this rich conversation, Adrian shares his journey with psychedelics, from anxiety and depression to living from the heart. He emphasizes the importance of regulating the nervous system and overcoming social anxiety. Adrian also highlights the role of integration and self-regulation in the psychedelic experience. Together, Adrian and Joseph explore the benefits of microdosing and breathwork as tools for personal growth and transformation, and how to build trust with psychedelic medicines.

Adrian shares how The Coaching Certification Program transformed his professional trajectory. He offers his perspective on the ever-evolving psychedelic field, highlighting the importance of ethics and community. Adrian also introduces his group microdose program, touching on the power of community in psychedelic integration.

Adrian Lozano is a plant medicine facilitator and integration coach. He has been working with psychedelic plant medicines for over 7 years. Plant medicine was the catalyst for his healing journey and now holds space for others to do the same. Through education, guidance, and support Adrian promotes the safe use of plant medicine with intention. He leads retreats, facilitates ceremonies, and supports individuals with microdosing and integration.

Highlights:

Living with an open heart: Adrian’s psychedelic path

Regulating the nervous system

The power of the breathwork in psychedelic healing

The importance of integration

Microdosing and building trust with the medicine

The impact of the Coaching Certification Program

The transformation of the psychedelic field

Ayahuasca vs. psilocybin

The role of psychedelics in modern life

The value of personal experience in coaching

Adrian's group microdose program

Where to find Adrian's work

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Renowned nutritionist Oz Garcia joins host Paul F. Austin to share his journey from artistry to expertise, diving into the transformative power of fasting for health and longevity.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-240-oz-garcia/

Oz shares insights on cultivating the right mindset and humility for a fulfilling life, drawing from personal experiences including ketamine therapy for PTSD and long COVID recovery. Oz and Paul delve into the profound intersections of nutrition, spirituality, and healing, exploring topics from sleep and trauma to the evolutionary advantages of altered consciousness.

This conversation is a deep dive into holistic well-being and the integration of ancient wisdom with modern practices.

Oz Garcia is recognized as an authority on healthy aging, age reversal, and fortifying the immune system. His client list includes A-List celebrities, Fortune 100 CEOs, and more recently, those dealing with Covid and Post-Covid health issues. Oz Garcia's unique and customized approach to nutrition, functional health, and self-optimization, combined with more than forty years of experience, have made him one of the most recognizable names in the industry. Oz Garcia has lectured worldwide and is known as a trailblazer in the study of nutrition, ensuring quality of life as we age, and learning to survive Covid by creating a strong immune system.

Oz is the best selling author of five books: The Food Cure for Kids, The Balance, Look and Feel Fabulous Forever, Redesigning 50, and After Covid. He was twice voted best nutritionist by New York Magazine and is frequently called upon by some of the most respected names in medicine and media for his up -to-the-minute views on nutrition and its role in aging and longevity. Oz has served as a Nutritional Advisor for Equinox Fitness as well as a Wellness Partner at Fairmont Hotel Spa in Century City.

Oz has been featured in Vogue, Elle, Travel and Leisure, W Magazine, Forbes and The New York Times. He has also made numerous television appearances, including on NBC's Today Show, CBS's This Morning, ABC's Good Morning America, 20/20, 48 Hours, Fox News and The View.

Highlights:

Experiences at Mindvalley and A-Fest

Exploring the Human Potential Movement

From artist to nutritionist

Running as a spiritual practice

The evolutionary basis of intermittent fasting

Oz's journey into fasting and nutrition

Understanding fasting types and protocols

Mindset is everything

The humility of being alive

Healing trauma with ketamine and meditation

The evolutionary benefits of altered consciousness

The transformative power of illness

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In this episode, Paul F. Austin is joined by entrepreneur Bob Parsons for a candid dive into his journey healing war trauma with psychedelics.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-239-bob-parsons/

Bob Parsons, American entrepreneur and philanthropist, shares his journey from failing the fifth grade to becoming a billionaire. He discusses his challenges in school and how the Marine Corps helped him develop discipline and a sense of accomplishment. Parsons also opens up about his psychedelic experiences to heal war trauma and the profound impact they had on his life. 

Bob shares about the ongoing psychedelic research he supports through his philanthropic foundation and concludes by discussing his new book, Fire in the Hole, which candidly explores his life and experiences. 

This conversation touches on the transformative power of psychedelics to foster deep healing and catalyze significant life changes. 

Highlights:

Failing the fifth grade and challenges in early life

Enlisting in the marine corps and serving in Vietnam

Returning home as a Vietnam War vet

Transition to entrepreneurship

Finding psychedelics to treat war trauma

Philanthropic efforts in the psychedelic space

Bob’s new book, “Fire in the Hole!”

Bob Parsons:

Bob Parsons, best-known as the founder of GoDaddy, is widely recognized for his entrepreneurial and philanthropic efforts. Currently, Bob is the CEO and founder of YAM Worldwide.

Bob is a U.S. Marine Corps Vietnam veteran and a recipient of the Purple Heart Medal, Combat Action Ribbon, and Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry. He attended college at the University of Baltimore on the G.I. Bill and graduated magna cum laude. His alma mater presented him with an honorary doctorate in 2008 and named him Distinguished Entrepreneur in 2010.

In 2012, Bob founded YAM Worldwide,  which is home to his entrepreneurial ventures in the fields of motorcycles, golf, real estate, finance, marketing, innovation and philanthropy.

Over the years, three of Bob’s entrepreneurial ventures—Parsons Technology, GoDaddy, and now PXG (Parsons Xtreme Golf) have been recognized by Inc Magazine as being among America’s fastest growing privately-held companies.

Along with Renee, his wife and PXG President of Apparel, Bob started The Bob & Renee Parsons Foundation in 2012 to reach marginalized populations and causes often underfunded by mainstream philanthropy. The Foundation provides transformational grants to nonprofit organizations successfully working in the areas of homelessness, medical care, LGBTQ youth, education and the needs of wounded veterans and military families.

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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, renowned authors Gay & Katie Hendricks join host Paul F. Austin to share their insights on conscious loving and the impact of MDMA on relationships.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-238-drs-katie-and-gay-hendricks

Katie and Gay discuss their own journey of meeting and committing to each other, as well as the principles they teach in their work. They reflect on their early use of MDMA to facilitate a deeper connection and self-discovery in relationships. The conversation also explores their work with executives, the importance of commitment and authenticity, and how to balance personal and professional relationships.

Through unpacking their journey together, Katie and Gay reveal the power of turning concepts into experiential practices. They share their current and future projects, including Gay’s newest book “Your Big Leap Year.”

Gay Hendricks and Kathlyn Hendricks have been pioneers in the fields of body intelligence and relationship transformation for more than forty years. They’ve mastered ways to translate powerful concepts and life skills into experiential processes where people can discover their own body intelligence and easily integrate life-changing skills. Katie and Gay have empowered hundreds of coaches around the world to add a body intelligence perspective to enhance fields from medicine to sports psychology, education, and personal growth. Together and singly they have authored more than forty books, including such bestsellers as Conscious Loving, The Big Leap, Conscious Loving Ever After: How to Create Thriving Relationships at Midlife and Beyond, and The Genius Zone. They have appeared on more than 500 television and radio programs, including Oprah, 48 Hours and others.

In this conversation, Paul F. Austin and Dr. Cat Meyer discuss the expansive nature of sex and the importance of redefining it.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-237-cat-meyer-psyd-lmft

They explore the role of microdosing in enhancing vitality and connection, as well as the need for discernment and consent in relationships. Dr. Cat also provides a primer to play parties and offers advice on navigating new experiences safely and intentionally.

Dr. Cat Meyer, PsyD, LMFT is a licensed psychotherapist specializing in sex, trauma, and ketamine-assisted therapy, author, yoga teacher, and international speaker dedicated to evolving the relationship we have surrounding sexuality and our bodies. She is the host of the podcast Sex Love Psychedelics and the founder of SexLoveYoga.com, an online platform for education and programs on relationships, sexuality, and embodiment.

Highlights:

Expanding the definition of sex

Lessons from combining sex and psychedelics

Microdosing and sexual vitality

Vetting partners and building trust

Understanding play parties

Embodied consent

Resources on polyamory, tantra, and BDSM

Links:

Dr. Cat’s website: https://www.sexloveyoga.com/

Dr. Cat on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sexloveyoga/

Dr. Cat’s book, “sex love yoga”: https://amzn.to/4bF0p3T  

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Dillan DiNardo, CEO of Mindstate Design Labs, joins Paul F. Austin in exploring the use of AI to design human states of consciousness.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-236-dillan-dinardo/

Dillan shares his background growing up in a religious community and his journey into psychedelics. He discusses the origin story of Mindstate Design Labs, and the role of language and AI in understanding altered states of consciousness. Dillan also talks about his experience suing the DEA and winning, advocating for the research of psychoactive substances.

In this conversation, Dillan sheds light on unique approaches to psychedelic drug development. He envisions “expanding the psychedelic world” to design states of consciousness never before imagined—with therapeutic potential.

Dillan DiNardo is the CEO of Mindstate Design Labs, a next-generation psychedelic biotech company designing novel altered states of consciousness for mental health therapeutics. The company's mission is to map the biological basis of the varieties of psychedelic experience, enabling the precision design of novel altered states and a deeper understanding of the biological basis of consciousness. Mindstate Design Labs' backers include Y Combinator and founders of OpenAI, Neuralink, AngelList, Coinbase, Instacart, and Twitch.

Prior to Mindstate Design Labs, Dillan worked in a $1 billion venture fund, executing and managing biopharma, medical device, and health tech investments ranging from pre-seed to publicly traded companies.

Highlights:

Dillan’s journey from fundamentalist religious upbringing to finding psychedelics

Sasha and Ann Shulgin, Tom Ray, and the origin story of Mindstate Design Labs

Joining startup accelerator Y Combinator

Intentionally designing states of consciousness

The role of language and AI in altered states of consciousness

Suing the DEA and winning

Links:

Mindstate Design Labs: https://www.mindstate.design/

Dillan on Twitter: https://twitter.com/dillandinardo

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Vanessa Crites, founder of Sobriety of the Soul, joins Paul F. Austin to discuss the intersection of recovery and psychedelics.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-235-vanessa-crites/

Vanessa shares her personal journey of recovery and how she became interested in psychedelic medicine. She explores the intersection of recovery and psychedelics, highlighting the spiritual principles of the 12-step program and the history of psychedelics in Alcoholics Anonymous (AA). Vanessa unpacks her educational program, Sobriety of the Soul, which provides resources and support for individuals in recovery interested in working with psychedelics. She discusses the unique challenges faced by people in recovery, and the need to normalize the conversation around psychedelics within that group. She also emphasizes the importance of discernment when it comes to the intentional and responsible application of psychedelics in recovery.

Vanessa closes with resources and recommendations and shares her vision of sobriety of the soul as the next frontier for those in recovery.

Vanessa Crites

Vanessa Crites is a recovery strategist and educator dedicated to the thoughtful integration of psychedelics into sober living. She guides individuals towards profound healing and personal growth through mentorship and her flagship program Sobriety of the Soul. Drawing from a wealth of professional experience and personal recovery since 2005, Vanessa blends the rigor of evidence-based practices with the depth of spiritual wisdom to offer a safe and responsible pathway for those in recovery.

Rooted in 12-Step principles, Vanessa’s approach bridges the gaps between traditional recovery models and the expansive potential of psychedelics, delivering a holistic understanding that encompasses spiritual, emotional, and psychological well-being. She is devoted to debunking misconceptions while championing harm reduction, prioritizing both personal and public well-being. Through her work, Vanessa illuminates a path beyond the confines of traditional sobriety approaches, guiding those in active recovery towards the empowerment of an awakened, authentic existence—what she calls “Soulful Sobriety.”

Highlights:

Vanessa’s recovery journey and path to psychedelics

The spiritual and psychedelic origins of AA and the 12 Steps of Recovery

How Bill Wilson’s LSD experiences impacted his recovery

Vanessa’s journey incorporating psychedelics into her recovery

Sobriety of the Soul’s origin story and programming

Synthetic vs. plant medicines for recovery

The discernment needed to avoid reliance on psychedelic experiences

Normalizing conversations about psychedelics in addiction recovery communities

Resources for psychedelics and recovery

Links:

Sobriety of the Soul: https://sobrietyofthesoul.com/join-sos961348?am_id=paul179

Vanessa’s free Recovery-Informed Microdose Guide: https://bit.ly/45FgylL

Bill Wilson’s article, “The Next Frontier: Emotional Sobriety”: https://silkworth.net/alcoholics-anonymous/the-next-frontier-emotional-sobriety/

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Join Paul F. Austin for an interesting weaving of meditation, psychedelics, and conscious leadership, with renowned executive coach Eric Kaufmann.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-234-eric-kaufmann/

This intimate conversation was recorded live from Eric’s “meditation temple” built beside his house in Southern California. Eric shares his journey from being kicked out of college to finding meditation and his early adventures integrating psychedelics into his meditation practice.

He reveals his insights from a year-long meditation retreat and emphasizes the growing need to bring humanity and spirituality to business. Eric lays out his two books and their roadmaps to conscious leadership. Finally, the two explore how psychedelics can be integrated into coaching to help leaders transcend “ego myopia,” which Eric sees as the biggest barrier to executive effectiveness and conscious leadership.

Eric Kaufmann:

Eric Kaufmann combines an unrelenting commitment to results with an unyielding regard for spirit. He is the product of forty years of Zen practice seamlessly woven into three decades of business leadership, both as a corporate leader and advisor to leaders.

Eric is an appointed Thought Leader at Harvard’s Institute of Coaching. He designed and taught the Coaching for Professionals program at San Diego State University, and has presented at TEDx. Author of The Four Virtues of a Leader and Leadership Breakdown, Eric is laser focused on teaching executives and leaders how to raise their game as human-centered leaders with bottom line accountability.

Eric’s teaching and guidance to clients such as Dr. Bronner’s, Verizon, ASML, Sunpower, Circle, SDG&E, Alcon, and Facebook, weaves in tried-and-true wisdom gleaned from more than 15,000 hours as an executive guide.

Eric has lived and worked on three continents, and managed and led at Fortune 100 firms. In addition to his degree in business, he is a certified Clinical Hypnotherapist and Master Scuba diving Instructor. In his previous life, he lived off the grid in a mountain cabin he built by himself. Eric is married for 25 years and is the blessed father of two remarkable young women who know how to navigate the Matrix.

Highlights:

Finding spiritual communion through meditation

From being kicked out of college to finding meditation

Eric’s early adventures integrating psychedelics into his meditation practice

Revelations from a year-long meditation retreat

Turning home and work life into spiritual practices

The growing need to bring humanity and spirituality to business

Cultivating community outside the workplace

How conscious business practices can shape culture

Unpacking the four virtues of a leader

Transcending ‘Ego Myopia’ to conscious leadership

Integrating psychedelic experiences through coaching

Eric’s vision for creating more conscious leaders

Learn more about Eric’s books

Links:

Eric’s website: http://www.sagatica.com/

Eric on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eric.kaufmann/

Eric on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickaufmann7

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Paul F. Austin is joined by Dave Asprey, the “father of biohacking” and creator of Bulletproof Coffee.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-233-dave-asprey/

Dave shares his journey from discovering yak butter tea in the Himalayas to revolutionizing biohacking. He unravels the intersection of biohacking and psychedelics, highlighting the potential benefits and risks of substances like ayahuasca. Then, Dave unpacks his 40 Years of Zen program, its unique neurofeedback approach, and the nuanced differences between neurofeedback and psychedelics. Finally, Dave shares his vision for the evolution of humanity, emphasizing biohacking, consciousness, and reclaiming sovereignty.

Dave Asprey:

Dave Asprey is an award-winning entrepreneur and tech innovator known around the world as "The Father of Biohacking." He's a multi-New York Times and national bestselling author of Game Changers, Head Strong, The Bulletproof Diet, and Smarter Not Harder, the creator of Bulletproof Coffee, and the host of the Webby Award-winning #1 rated health show, The Human Upgrade Podcast (formerly Bulletproof Radio). Dave is the founder and CEO of Upgrade Labs, the first franchise of biohacking gyms, and Danger Coffee, his mineralized, mold-free coffee.

Over the last two decades Dave has worked with world-renowned doctors, researchers, scientists, and global mavericks to uncover the latest, most innovative methods, techniques, and products for enhancing mental and physical performance. Dave has personally spent over $2 million taking control of his own biology, pushing the bounds of human possibility all in the name of science evolution and revolution. The creator of the Bulletproof diet and innovator of Bulletproof Coffee, Collagen Protein supplements, and many more advances in commercial wellness products, Dave’s mission is to empower the entire globe with information and knowledge that unlocks the Super Human in everyone at any age. The proof of these advancements are better sleep, energy, and expanded capacity for all.

Highlights:

Discovering yak butter tea in the Himalayas

The power of coffee and nicotine

The journey of Bulletproof Coffee

Taking control of your biology through biohacking

Exploring altered states, from psychedelics to neurofeedback

The importance of psychedelic integration

The nexus of biohacking and psychedelics

Cautions around Ayahuasca and other psychedelics

Cultivating the ‘skills’ of forgiveness and gratitude

40 Years of Zen and neurofeedback

Dave’s vision for his own longevity and current projects

Shifting from victimhood to sovereignty

Final thoughts and recommendations

Links:

Dave’s website https://daveasprey.com/

Dave on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dave.asprey/

Dave on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Daveaspreyofficial/

40 Years of Zen: https://40yearsofzen.com/

Danger Coffee: https://dangercoffee.com/

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Paul F. Austin welcomes Sunny Strasburg, LMFT, to discuss utilizing IFS & psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy through the Theradelic Approach.

Sunny discusses her multidisciplinary background and how she came to develop her unique therapeutic approach. She incorporates various modalities such as Internal Family Systems (IFS), Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR), and the Gottman Method in her work. Sunny emphasizes the importance of personal psychedelic experience for therapists and the need for ethical and well-trained practitioners in the field. She also shares her vision for the future and the challenges of scaling psychedelic therapy while maintaining integrity and respect for the mystery of the psychedelic experience.

Sunny Strasburg discusses the Theradelic Approach, which combines Internal Family Systems therapy and psychedelic-assisted therapy. She explains how working with internal parts can lead to self-compassion and coherence. Sunny also shares her experience facilitating Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy retreats with IFS founder Dick Schwartz, and how they help leaders in various industries lead with self-energy. The conversation then delves into the importance of ethics in artificial intelligence and the potential impact of psychedelics on the AI space. Sunny reflects on the lessons she has learned from plant medicine and emphasizes the importance of being in service and awe.

Sunny Strasburg, LMFT:

Sunny Strasburg, LMFT plays a multifaceted role in the fields of psychology and psychedelic therapy, encompassing education, consultation, authorship, and licensed psychotherapy. Her notable literary achievement, "The Theradelic Approach: Psychedelic Therapy: Perspective, Preparation, and Practice," features a foreword by Dr. Richard Schwartz, the creator of the Internal Family Systems model. Through this work, Mrs. Strasburg distills insights drawn from her experiences as an educator, entrepreneur, and psychotherapist. Sunny's professional journey encompasses proficiency in Internal Family Systems and archetypal psychology, alongside certification in Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR). As a graduate of Pacifica Graduate Institute and the California Institute of Integral Studies, Mrs. Strasburg holds additional certifications in Psychedelic Assisted Therapy and Research, with specialized knowledge and training in Ketamine, MDMA, and Psilocybin Assisted Psychotherapies.

Sunny is the originator and lead educator of The Theradelic Approach, a model of psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy. Her collaboration with Dr. Richard Schwartz and other prominent figures has led to impactful trainings and immersive retreats. Converging the domains of Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy (KAP), Internal Family Systems (IFS), and Jungian psychology, Mrs. Strasburg has formulated innovative principles and methodologies that elevate therapeutic practices and the conscientious use of psychedelics within clinical frameworks.

Sunny's expertise finds expression in prominent conferences like The Psychedelic Summit 2023, Psychedelic Science 2023, SXSW 2023, and the 2023 Expanded States of Consciousness Worldwide Summit. Moreover, her contributions extend to engagements with the 2021 EMDRIA Worldwide Virtual Conference, and her involvement spans diverse platforms, including The Theradelic Approach training, Three Cups Psychedelics, Journey Clinical, Inbodied Training, EMDRIA UK, and the Boston Trauma Conference.

Highlights:

Introduction and background

Exploring IFS, EMDR, the Gottman Method, & the Theradelic Approach

Addressing gaps in psychedelic therapy training

The importance of personal psychedelic experience for therapists

Understanding trauma mapping

Dosage and frequency in ketamine-assisted therapy

Working with internal parts using IFS

ketamine-assisted psychotherapy retreats for leaders

Psychedelics, AI, and ethics

Lessons from plant medicine

Being in service and awe

Resources and trainings

Links:

Sunny’s website: https://sunnystrasburgtherapy.com/    Sunny’s book, “The Theradelic Approach”: https://thetheradelicapproach.com/

Sunny’s retreats: https://www.sunnystrasburgretreats.com/

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In this Psychedelic Podcast episode, host Paul F. Austin is joined by founder & CEO of Blueprint and the "world's most measured human."

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-231-bryan-johnson/

Delve into Bryan's journey from depression to a zest for life, and his extensive approach to longevity and health optimization.

Brian shares his approach to longevity and health optimization. He reveals the philosophy behind Blueprint, a system of intelligence that uses scientific evidence and algorithms to manage health and wellness.

He explains the concept behind Kernel, a brain mapping technology, and its relationship to psychedelic work. Additionally, Brian offers tips on the daily health practices, highlighting the importance of sleep.

This enlightening conversation imagines the future of longevity, exploring the balance of intelligence and compassion—and provides actionable habits for improving health and lifespan.

Bryan Johnson:

Bryan Johnson is the world's most measured human. Johnson sold his company, Braintree Venmo, to PayPal for $800m in 2013. Through his Project Blueprint, Johnson has achieved metabolic health equal to the top 1.5% of 18 year olds, inflammation 66% lower than the average 10 year old, and reduced his speed of aging by the equivalent of 31 years. Johnson freely shares his protocols and data publicly for everyone to use. Project Blueprint, is an endeavor to achieve humanity and earth scale cooperation starting within Self. In 2023, Johnson launched Rejuvenation Olympics, a leaderboard assessing one's speed of aging using DNA methylation. Of the 1,750 people who have been using this state-of-the-art aging algorithm to track their progress longitudinally, Johnson ranks #1 in speed of age reduction.

Johnson is also the founder & CEO of Kernel, creator of the world’s first mainstream non-invasive neuroimaging system; and OS Fund, where he invested $100M in the predictable engineering of atoms, molecules, and organisms into companies now collectively valued over $6B. He is an outdoor adventure enthusiast, pilot, and author of children’s books, Code 7 and The Proto Project.

Highlights:

The philosophy behind Blueprint’s longevity work.

Bryan’s journey from depression to a thirst for life.

Kernel neuroimaging.

Mapping the brain on psychedelics.

Blueprint and effective, actionable daily practices.

Sleep as a priority.

Follistatin gene therapy and mesenchymal stem cells.

Penis rejuvenation.

The Future of Longevity.

Links:

Bryan’s website: https://protocol.bryanjohnson.com/

Bryan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bryanjohnson_/?hl=en

Bryan on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BryanJohnson

Bryan on LinkedIn: https://twitter.com/bryan_johnson

The Myth of Sisyphus: https://amzn.to/48VccZP

(podcast) Precision-Performance Medicine: Longevity, Holistic Health, & Optimization - Daniel Stickler, M.D.: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-195-daniel-stickler-md/

(podcast) The Longevity Mindset: A Mind-Body Roadmap to Healthy Aging - Dr. Halland, M.D.: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-227-dr-halland-md/

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The Coaching Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin sits down with Phoenix White, founder of The Sacred Celestial.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-230-phoenix-white/

Recorded in-person at the 2023 Wonderland Conference in Miami, their conversation explores the art of curating transformational psychedelic ceremonies.

From postpartum mental health to creating safe, transformative, and memorable psychedelic containers, Phoenix delves into her journey, including two brain surgeries and her book, "Redefining Strong."

Join Phoenix as she unravels her own psychedelic insights on love, parenting, community, and self-actualization.

Phoenix White:

Phoenix White is revolutionizing the boundaries of mental health as a pioneering force in the realm of transformative healing, driven by an unapologetic dedication to fostering profound personal growth & self-exploration. She has mastered the art of merging spirituality, science, & radically curating immersive multi-sensory healing experiences. Her ‘Sacred Celestial Ceremony’ was nominated for the Retreat of the Year Award at the 2023 Wonderland Conference.

As a visionary and woman of color, Phoenix has triumphed over immense adversity, surviving two brain surgeries and overcoming the challenges of abuse, trauma and homelessness while raising a child as a single mother. Phoenix embodies the true spirit of what it means to rise from the ashes. Her journey has transformed her into a potent healer and a compelling voice in communities worldwide.

Phoenix is the founder of The Sacred Celestial, which has catapulted her into becoming a global leader in the field of psychedelic-assisted therapy through groundbreaking work in ceremonial psychedelics. She is also the best-selling author of Redefining Strong: A Journey to Finding Yourself, True Healing, and Spiritual Recalibration—a riveting story of self-discovery, sacrifice, and healing.

Highlights:

The overlooked importance of postpartum mental health.

Psychedelics and breastfeeding.

Phoenix’s private and group ceremonies with psilocybin.

Curating impactful ceremonial psychedelic experiences.

Phoenix’s two brain surgeries and her book, “Redefining Strong.”

Psychedelic lessons on self-confidence, love, and parenting.

On creating community around psychedelics.

How to learn more about Phoenix’s retreats and ceremonies.

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In this illuminating episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Joe Moore, the CEO of Psychedelics Today.

For a full summary and show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-229-joe-moore/

Recorded in-person at the 2023 reMind conference in Las Vegas, this conversation delves into the profound lessons and insights gained from navigating the unique challenges of the psychedelic space. Paul and Joe unpack the often-overlooked necessity of incorporating best business practices into psychedelic companies and explore the critical components of effective psychedelic training or coaching programs. Join Paul and Joe as they break down their respective programs—the Psychedelic Coaching Institute’s Coaching Certification Program and Vital Psychedelic Training—and compare the content and approach of each.

Together, Paul and Joe share their hard-earned lessons from running psychedelic businesses, discuss the pros and cons of relying on investments in the psychedelic space, and ponder the potential future of the psychedelic landscape amidst legal shifts and evolving healthcare models. This conversation provides an insightful and balanced exploration into the heart of the psychedelic renaissance.

Joe Moore:

Joe Moore co-founded Psychedelics Today in 2016 with his business partner Kyle Buller. As CEO, Joe has created one of the world's best known psychedelic podcasts, blogs and training platforms. Joe combines more than twenty years of avid research and training in psychedelics with twenty years of experience in software and multinational project management. Joe has led countless transpersonal breathwork workshops and is a much sought-after international speaker on the intersecting subjects of psychedelic medicine and healing, breathwork, drug policy, medical innovation, international justice and environmentalism.

Highlights:

Joe and Paul’s journeys starting businesses early on in the latest psychedelic renaissance.

The pros and cons of relying on investments in the psychedelic space.

Paul unpacks The Psychedelic Coaching Institute’s Coaching Certification Program.

Joe shares the origin and evolution of Vital Psychedelic Training.

How Vital approaches Scholarships.

Joe and Paul’s hard-earned lessons from running psychedelic businesses.

Considering decrim, access, legalization, and healthcare models for psychedelics.

How to learn more about the programs by Third Wave and Psychedelics Today.

Key Links:

Psychedelics Today: https://psychedelicstoday.com    Vital Psychedelic Training: https://www.vitalpsychedelictraining.com    Psychedelics Today on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/psychedelicstoday/    Vital Psychedelic Training on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vitalpsychedelic/   

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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Ryan Duey, Co-Founder of Plunge, to discuss the nexus of cold exposure & psychedelics.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-228-ryan-duey/

Ryan shares his extraordinary journey—from a life-altering motorcycle accident in Thailand to transformative encounters with Ayahuasca in the Amazon. He also discusses the benefits of cold plunging and its role in supporting mental and physical well-being.

Ryan highlights the parallels between cold plunging and psychedelics, emphasizing the importance of surrender and breathwork in both practices. He then describes how to get the most out of cold plunging and sauna.

The conversation covers Ryan’s life-altering experiences, his surprising growth and success, and his mission to “make resilience mainstream.”

Ryan Duey:

Ryan Duey was born and raised in Northern California. He attended Cal Poly University where he spent a semester abroad in Barcelona. The experience was so impactful that after graduation, Ryan returned to Spain and spent the next two years living and working in Madrid. After Madrid, Ryan returned to the states and began working in the front office of the San Jose Earthquakes. Soon after, Ryan had what he calls his “greatest gift”: a head-on motorcycle accident in Thailand. This near death experience catapulted Ryan into a journey of self-inquiry, leading him to the jungles of the Amazon, the inside of a float tank, and a commitment to entrepreneurship in the Health and Wellness industry.

While building Capitol Floats, Sacramento's Premier Float Center, Ryan traveled to Reboot Float Spa in the Bay Area with the hopes of meeting the owner, Mike Garrett. The two quickly became friends and business confidants, going on to co-found Plunge.

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Highlights:

Ryan’s transformative experiences with Ayahuasca.

Drawing similarities between float tanks and ayahuasca ceremonies.

Ryan’s journey opening float tank centers.

The core benefits of cold plunging.

Helpful tips for approaching both cold plunging and psychedelics.

Cold plunging for psychedelic preparation and integration.

Reflecting on the growth of Plunge.

Incorporating sauna into a cold plunging routine.

Plunge’s exciting products and developments for the future.

Links:

Plunge: https://plunge.com/discount/THIRDWAVE150

Plunge on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/plunge/?hl=en  

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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dr. Halland Chen, a Double Board Certified physician at the forefront of integrative medicine. Recorded live at the 2023 Wonderland Conference in Miami, this insightful conversation is a dive into the realm of longevity and optimal living.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-227-dr-halland-md/

Dr. Halland shares his transition from traditional to functional medicine, emphasizing the power of psychedelics in promoting mental health for longevity and a growth mindset. Explore the world of NAD+ supplementation and its role in the quest for a longer, healthier life. Delve into the use of psychedelics in pain management and uncover Dr. Halland's personalized medicine program, designed to optimize wellness and longevity through regenerative medicine and biohacking.

Paul and Dr. Halland touch on the potential of artificial intelligence in shaping personalized medicine and consider the fascinating realms of peptides and biohacking. Learn about Dr. Halland’s protocols for heavy metal detoxing and his thoughts on the nuanced difference between extending health span and mere lifespan.

This conversation unravels the importance of mindset and intuition in pursuing healthy aging, exploring a holistic approach to peak performance, life extension, and overall well-being.

Dr. Halland, M.D.:

Dr. Halland Chen, MD is a Double Board Certified physician specializing in ways to help people heal faster and feel better. Dr. Halland has been featured on HBO, Forbes, and Elle and is an expert in longevity, NAD, stem cells, anti-aging and non-surgical options for pain relief and repairing injuries.

He is focused on peak performance, life extension and optimizing wellness by reducing inflammation, boosting the immune system and cellular detoxification by using Regenerative Medicine, Biohacking, and natural supplements. He applies his unique techniques and specialized testing for patients to address sports injuries, pain management conditions, longevity optimization and for high performance clients.

Dr. Halland attended the University of Miami’s Honors Program in Medicine and graduated with Honors in Research Distinction. He is the author of numerous scientific publications and further specialized in Interventional Pain Management at Albert Einstein College of Medicine's Fellowship program in New York City. He is Double Board Certified in Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation and Pain Medicine.

When he’s not tending to patients or taking part in research studies, Dr. Halland can be found at health-focused speaking events or traveling across the globe doing research projects and collaborating with colleagues on modern medicine practices.

Highlights:

Dr. Halland’s journey from traditional to functional medicine.

The relationship between NAD+ supplementation, mitochondrial health, & longevity.

Psychedelics’ potential to help foster a growth mindset that promotes longevity.

How psychedelics challenge conventional approaches to pain management.

Dr. Halland’s personalized medicine program for health optimization and longevity.

Considering AI’s role in personalized medicine.

Peptides and biohacking.

Heavy metal detox protocols.

Healthspan vs. lifespan.

The importance of mindset and intuition when it comes to healthy aging and living.

Links:

Dr. Halland’s website: https://www.drhalland.com/    Dr. Halland on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drhalland/?hl=en    Dr. Halland on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/halland    Dr. Halland on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@drhalland    (podcast) 207. Christian Angermayer - Democratizing Psychedelics: From Ancient Rituals to Modern Medicalization: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-207-christian-angermayer/    (podcast) 195. Precision-Performance Medicine: Longevity, Holistic Health, & Optimization: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-195-daniel-stickler-md/

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In this episode, Paul F. Austin is joined by Hamilton Morris to explore bufotenin, psilomethoxin, and the nuances of psychedelic journalism.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-226-hamilton-morris/

Recorded live at the 2023 Wonderland Conference in Miami, their conversation first explores both the science and historical perspective of lesser-mentioned compounds like bufotenine. Hamilton then shares his profound insights drawn from directing the acclaimed Vice TV docuseries Hamilton's Pharmacopeia, as well as his work as a psychedelic chemist.

Together, Paul and Hamilton navigate the rich history, chemistry, and cultural impacts of various psychoactive drugs, touching on the wisdom from legends including Alexander Shulgin, Terrence McKenna, and more.

Highlights:

The history of psilomethoxin and Hamilton’s own experience with it.

The limitations of reductionist approaches to understanding psychedelics.

Exploring the well-documented history of bufotenine and its subjective effects.

Hamilton’s takeaways from working on Hamilton's Pharmacopeia.

Hamilton on maintaining a balanced perspective in psychedelic journalism.

Links:

Hamilton’s podcast: https://www.patreon.com/HamiltonMorris

Hamilton on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hamiltonmorris/?hl=en

Hamilton on Twitter: https://twitter.com/hamiltonmorris?lang=en

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Ryan Latreille, Founder of Kanna Extract & Hearthstone Collective, joins Paul F. Austin for a fascinating journey through the world of kanna.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here:  https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-225-ryan-latreille/

Ryan unravels the secrets of kanna’s alkaloids that lend to its unique effects on mood and energy. From historical cosmologies to modern applications, Ryan and Paul explore the common pairings with kanna, from cannabis to psilocybin. Lastly, Ryan sheds his expertise on sourcing the safest, most effective, and ethical kanna possible.

This episode explores the intersection of culture, spirituality, and human transformation through the lens of kanna's potent effects.

Ryan Latreille:

Ryan Latreille founded Kanna Extract Co., Hearthstone Collective, and Flow Labs. With over a decade of expertise in mushrooms and plant medicines, he’s dedicated to offering solutions that support mental and emotional well-being. From providing premium kanna extracts to designing innovative nutraceutical products, Ryan is helping shape the psychedelic and wellness industries with ethically sourced, high-quality botanicals.

Highlights:

Ryan’s path with kanna microdosing that led him to create Hearthstone Collective. Zembrin’s research into Kanna’s therapeutic potential.  Microdosing kanna: benefits and risks. Kanna cosmologies: historical uses in the Khoi and San tribes. Why the cultivation and lab testing of kanna is so crucial. Unpacking the subjective effects of Kanna’s alkaloids. Known Kanna combinations: Cannabis, psilocybin, & more.

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